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Comments

[Dano]

Really Wonderful photography. Beauty is in the eyes that perceive timelessly without thought .:-)

[kirsten]

thankyou dano, truth is a pathless land :)

[Dano]

Yes what a terrible burden to find out what the loveless, ruthless, path inventors have done to us all. Let it not destroy any of you nor lead you into the state of hope, or invention or depression. Let it be your own inner light as a revelation. Not more imagination that invents truth and further destroys our own minds. Nor let the truth destroy you. The living truth that factually informs you innerly with light. See the truth that those that said they know, go through them, follow them, let them lead you with their books, did not know, and were fragmented hypocrites themselves.

Do not let facts and others illusions drive you into hopelessness, instead of healthy doubt, and deep personal honesty, and integrity. Enjoy a peace filled, real doubt of inner, and outer psychological authorities without violent revolt. Repeating others is not our own seeing, and our own flowering of awareness, and certainly we do not repeat others from our own self understanding and observations or inner seeing and light. :-)

[Dano]

Do not get me wrong .When Kirsten tells me truth is a pathless land . I see It is her own seeing of the truth of that statement and not a repeating even if others used the same words . If we listen to each statement we hear,or read, we will see the ones that are from conditioned minds and mislead or advocate more propaganda . When someone says be the opposite of what you are they lied, and that becoming is a path in a fictional world of opposites invented by mankind .We can Learn together, and see what we are without condemnation, or remorse, or acceptance, or guilt .Self learning for its own sake, not for a commercial gain,or increase of the vain self . Seeing for its own sake brings beauty, affection, integration, inner peace , unity joy, into the thought blinded eyes of the observer. That fictional, traditionally conditioned observer.

The conditioned observers believed in the field of the psychological opposites, and fictional illusions of non violence, and super vain self achievements. Anyone that believes in that field should stay in that field, see the whole field of hypocrisy first, and not form an opinion, or belief about its opposite, and even make the mind a more complex troubled mind . Nor form any belief that requires an oppositional inner nature .Yes the truth is a pathless land but anarchy and despotism, violent revolt , is not a good solution to that fact. So any contact with and by living truth, is not dependent on gambling,disorder ,mechanical order,materialistic pursuits, vanity, or luck, or chance, but on a non commercial openness, a hearing a seeing an awareness not invented, or projected by trying, willful struggling, or opinions,or deep personal conclusions, or any superficial thoughts . An awakening of the real humbled heart, and a seeing of the false heart the temporary intellect invented, is part of beauty and light . :-)

[Dano]

Thank the goodness, or inner movement, and inner flame of a few, for places to Express freely on earth. Thank you Kirsten for an oasis like Express Free. :-)

[WolfgangB]

Thank you for letting us walk with you through the forest. Still looking ..

[WolfgangB]

So there are colored leaves replacing the dark green shade of the summer. There is light comming in through the bare branches. This light reflects and makes the leaves bright, not blue and not green but yellow, orange and red. There is set of brown shades.

[kirsten]

there were many clouded gray days when we were walking in the forest,
but the yellow, orange and red made it look as if the sun was shining.
yes warm colors, warm shades, much softness, thick carpets of mosses..
the larch is a pinetree who does lose its needles, after turning into gold.

[WolfgangB]

I love the Larch tree in the mountains. Clouds change the way light is distributed in the sky and how it illuminates the fortest. There is not one point from where all the light originates. There is a white screen which illuminates the scene quite differently. It might be a wet rany and grey day and yet the rain cleans all the dust and the uniform illumination from all sides, gives a different dimension to it. A clear day implies shadows. Shadows are different on grey days. No blue but warm colors, yes.

[Sree]

Clouds change and grey days....mmmm. I wonder if we would notice as much if we were squirels and not estranged creatures of another world.

[kirsten]

had we been squirrels we would only be interested in nuts ?
yes i wonder too, especially when i'm viewing deep-sea movies,
all the colored corals, the amazingly spectacular colored fishes..
we, another-world-creatures, are able to really enjoy that beauty,
for billions of years it was there, doing its art, and nobody watched.

[Dano]

I could be wrong of course .I think mankind is not the only animal to see color, and appreciate beauty,and be moved by what he or she sees? Even if it is only in a specialized way. Mankind has not been on this earth nearly as long as some of the other creatures . I do not think beauty in nature and the cosmos , was just there just waiting for mankind to see . I think some maybe most of the other sea creatures, do seem to love movement and ability, and agility, and seem to sense the beauty of their environment, and even play in it joyfully with their own kind and share a similar consciousness .

My friends the dolphins used to laugh, sing and play beside me , riding the waves my boat made sometimes when I would take my boat out in the ocean looking for them . It is not very hard for me to think they were happy, very cheerful creatures , very sensitive , and enjoyed the beauty of the sea, and the ocean world , and even the sunrises and sunsets .

I think the whale might also see and appreciate the beauty of the sea in their own unique way and i would not presume to eliminate any sensitive playful creature .Thought as memory , is only good for communicating and its no good for understanding, an intelligence in perception that sees great beauty without saying wow, I want to tell everyone about that and try to see the same exact thing again .

Vanity as memory did not see anything beautiful, it tries to recreates it from memory . Vanity cannot appreciate beauty, and let it go, until it sees beauty again .Vanity wants to own beauty, so it buys things,sees beauty in symbols, and images ,statues , and paintings poetry and words , and things it can purchase own, and bring home.

It can even own children and other human beings , it can bring them home, and fall asleep in front of a TV with a martini . Fall asleep , to the truth, that most beautiful things in the universe, the most beautiful things in the world, like Joy, Love, and nature,oceans mountains, streams , waterfalls , forests, trees, galaxies ,flowers,great flourishing rain forests, and seas , the beautiful sky,the canyons , the meadows , the sunrises, and sunsets, and even the beauty in the instruments that gives animals, and all living things the ability to sense, hear, feel, and see.

The ability to see all living things is mostly free to the rich, the poor, and to you, and me, and was not invented by a man that claimed only he was created to appreciate, and get on his knees, and give thanks to some ugly man invented male God,for the woman as a playmate and servant ,and for beautiful things and what only he as vain, greedy, violent , and wise in accumulated superstitions ,falsely programmed by culture ,could understand, appreciate, and see .:-)

[Sree]

Mankind is not an animal, Dano. We are consciousness itself, we are this reality, the stream of sorrow. You have not been listening. Please....give your heart to find out.

[Sree]

Yes, Kirsten. Nobody watched because beauty does not know what beauty is, said Lao Tzu.

Beauty is observable only when the observer - that creature from another world - exists.

Well, I guess Wolfgang is that creature. Dano too.

[Dano]

We are a strange mixture of selfish, jealous, possessive animals, and psychological becoming as vanity. A self righteous sense of superiority living in a projected state of delusion , and running around as children like yourself with our superstitious dull brains, dimwitted , and talking about super bikes , personal experiences we fantasize about , and being obnoxious disrespectful grumpy, loud mouthed hypocrites, and labeling others as dwarves like ourselves.

We are nothing else but a lot of hot air . Give your self to the exposing and seeing of your dishonesty , ignorance, fear, conditioning, insecurity , deep motives and sorrow .See your real inability to think for yourself and see with awareness as if you looking in a mirror. See how little you really do know about life as a tiny self projected bragging self that presupposes you know everything about mankind, and life and do not see when your naked,exposed for what you are, your an animal dumber than most that defecates where you say you are really going to eat . :-)

[Dano]

We are all going to die and mankind in general thinks its the other destroying this world .In general the world is me and I am the world . I can easily make laws against greed, and invent another ideology . Will that end all forms of greed in me ? I can repeat what a million people have said about beauty . Is that beauty in my eyes or my own direct understanding of beauty? If I see what Lao said why should I parrot him ?

Do people that parrot others see things for themselves not that irs wrong to discuss what others said ? I think its highly likely Lao may have been very wrong and a dwarf trapped in positive, and negative thought too .I do not think Lao had universal truth in his pocket or saw the eventual destruction caused by imitative thought, propaganda and conditioning, or told the whole truth and nothing but the truth .

I think we all can see together the violence , the insecurity , that conditioning and the intellect defends when we defend words others spoke or wrote without our own seeing of the truth or falseness of them .Lao was wrong . Where the observer made of thought is, there is no beauty no matter what imaginary dimension he thought he was in .

I can reasonably show anyone, that truth, if we see they did not think there was anything wrong repeating them, and in not seeing with them and in conditioning others to agree with them ? So When anyone says you can cultivate beauty, own beauty, achieve a beautiful state with your little conditioned particular memories, experiences and self. I absolutely disageee but not violently . :-)

[Dano]

Sree If the little self, and the Lao self, are in abeyance, and quiet, and unconcerned, and not in a state of chatter or stress? Not merely drugged by alcohol, or morphine, or Lao ,or lsd, or a book to be quiet ? It might be possible to see, to listen to anyone, or look at anything with Love, with compassion, and with beauty in the eyes, and vision but you won't be important, or there in awareness to know. .:-)

[kirsten]

Tao Te Ching
Chapter 67

Some say that my teaching is nonsense.
Others call it lofty but impractical.
But to those who have looked inside themselves,
this nonsense makes perfect sense.
And to those who put it into practice,
this loftiness has roots that go deep.

I have just three things to teach:
simplicity, patience, compassion.
These three are your greatest treasures.
Simple in actions and in thoughts,
you return to the source of being.
Patient with both friends and enemies,
you accord with the way things are.
Compassionate toward yourself,
you reconcile all beings in the world.

Lao Tzu

[Sree]

Well, Dano isn't patient. He profiles me. And that's a no-no in America. He thinks a biker bartender is a dimwit and incapable of channeling intelligence. Ok, so I am a parrot. At least, I can fly.
All he can do is stand on tip-toe...spiritually speaking, that is.

Lao Tsu said, he who stand on tip-toe is not steady...sqwaaakk! Polly wants a cracker.

[Dano]

Sree . All psychological practice to arrive, or achieve , leads to mechanical behavior, immaturity,neurotic behavior patterns and violent defense of the ignorance of our own inner fragmentation, and conditioning. Repeating All traditional psychological Propaganda as truth without self understanding is dimitted play in the eyes of the wise , not wisdom or intelligence at all . :-)

[Sree]

Ok, Dano. You win. And you have a good Thanksgiving with your folks.

[kirsten]

this is not a contest, just a walk..

[Dano]

Yes Sree winning, debating is really not what I am intentionally doing walking with you sharing my own writings most of the time written in the present for all of us .I write spontaneously for you too .I am not trying to convince you . It may seem that way to Kirsten sometimes too because there are some really more dangerous books that living by them causes imbecility,neurosis, disorders of all kinds, and personally destructive forms of fanaticism, and racism,and bigotry in human beings.

Books I firmly point out are not true, or helping anyone learn or see or be free .In fact it is rather immature for anyone say in any divisive culture .I live by the good book my tribe wrote, added too over the years, embellished, with exaggerations, and many myths,imprints on innocent children with fresher minds than mine, and loves .

So even though I am passionate about seeing and walking together as is our wonderful friend Kirsten. Be in peace Sree as Kirsten said . We are here walking , and learning and sharing together and no one is higher or lower here than another and listening, and seeing dispassionately in awareness, is a universal channeling, and connection too .:-

[Sree]

What about eating, Dano? What are you having for Thanksgiving? Pumpkin pie
and roast turkey? Who will be at the dinner table..mom, dad, wife and kids?
You've got to share your life too with me. Then, we can really take a walk together.

[Dano]

None of your guesses are true .I do not have to tell you anything but I will . I will have a meal at a friends house .I will not refuse to eat what they eat or prepare etc.I will not eat sweets or drink alcohol since I am allergic biologically to both of those substances in amy quantity over a gram of sugar or ounce of alcohol. Thank you Sree Kirsten and others . I do not know what real beauty is . I agree or I disagree is not nearly as beautiful as communing together, and factually seeing cooperatively, what propaganda does to the human brain and mind, and how easy it is to avoid seeing from the heart when we are mostly all blinded by others thoughts, and psychological inventions that make us all blind, and imitators and conformists ourselves .

We are mostly all pursuing Winning or losing together ,isolated away from each other in plagiarized traditional thought .We talk about beauty and act hatefully . So without looking at self becoming, and our own stubbornness to repeat these old sayings in books, without seeing poison in them, that destroys our own minds, we defend others inventions to see or live or think right without ending ignorance, or fear, and stubbornness in ourselves . .

Just see we compete without seeing together the ugliness of all that mechanical programming and behavior . That is the real tragedy of our lives . The Americans thank Indians for saving the lives of the first settlers on these holidays, and pay little heed of the genocide of millions of Indians.

It was genocide not thanks the indians recieved . Their the slavery, and all the slavery , that built the military, and financial empire, and superstitious foundations to dominate the whole world, with their great empire and wealth built on the ,military industrial complex and gamblers paradise, called wall street, and the stealing of most all the land from the indians that is now called the united states .

What they actually did was genocide . They raped the Poor friendly Indians of their land, and invented scalping themselves, and blamed the Indians even for the invention of scalping in their own prejudiced version of history,writing false history books, making the cowboy, the soldiers , look good, and calling the American Indians barbarians and uncivilized people . ,

Many did rebel seeing the terrible pillage and rape of the land and the Indian woman forced raped, and put into prostitution and white mens servitude .
The real uncivilized were the conquerers , and they were evil like the Catholics and their barbaric , inqusitiuons , and caused the Spanish rape of the earth , and What Great Britain has done to others with their bible, and royalty are some of the worst crimes on earth perpretated against their fellow man .

Like many before them conquering civilizations all failed and fell and the ones now will fall .Just like all those before them . So like all empires in the past have done they civilizations structured nationalistically, heirarchically , used self righteousness vanity, and superior forms of weaponry and violence to control and enslave the weaker, and mostly defenseless nations, as Israel is doing to Palestine now .

I do not celebrate such a rotten hypocrisy as that but I will have good times with my friends without ruining these celebratory days with reaction, condemnation, revulsion, or feeling sorry for myself, or any regret that we are all so small, narrow minded, stubborn, and so selfishly repeating others lunacy .

Generally mankind is parroting traditionally,even while some of us commit and defend , terrible false things in ourselves . Vainly thinking we are not traditionalists,and committing psychologically like traditionalists, is hypocrisy . After so many thousands of years still being hypocrites about our own traditional patterns, habits, and behavior is what must be seen not defended, or denied . We are mostly all so me first, and selfish .

Sree I am not profiling you .No matter what you or others think I factually am aware of mental deterioration and see it in me . I do see what conditioning, imitation, conformity, is doing to my own life .I see senility, and the ruts and crystallization in my own brain. I do not dish out more crystals and poison to others, no matter what hypocrites and people who are still self centered only think about themselves in a state of denial and personal hypocrisy do .

Many may think when they cannot get any pleasure or agreement from me, or think they can get me to accept their poison, and habits that control others, and whom they try to dominate . Many think I should be silenced and censored while they allow alcohol, drugs, and smoking,promiscuous me first sexism., and Lao's beliefs in self becoming, and the pleasure of superiority thinking to control, and dominate others , and are factually loveless themselves.

Vanity and hypocrisy is self conscientiousness, personal vanity, tiny social struggles, selfishness , and will acting in its totality. Many are ingesting poisons into their own organisms and telling others how to behave or think , without knowing why or who is factually doing that? If we do not see together and that conditioned deeper thought is controlling our lives what will continue is self destruction, internally and externally ?

If we do not see together the self is a vain cultural hypocrite, in the background projecting the observer, in denial of fragmentation, and deeper fragmented thinking , and a state of isolation dividing further, and unhappy, seeking security in mental and physical bondage , and full of doubts , and personal hypocrisy about really loving our friends , and so called masters ? How will we see together?

If we cannot understand our own deeper compulsions to be happy drive us to sex drugs commitments escapes and alcohol and gluttony and more pleasures, but not joy,Love , or an end to fear , than we cannot really say we see? can we ?

Can we Be in peace and see together? Not think we know? Can we treat our bodies, and minds as if they have to learn, and last ,our whole lives? Not just gluttonous for pleasures today, and denying the hangovers tomorrow? Or denying obesity and lung problems, and high blood pressure are not a sign of treating our bodies in a non goodness filled way .

Indulging continuously in the senses, is not leading to happiness or an uncultivatred unsought real joy in life is it ? It is also Not a way to real healthy living even if you say I know eventually I will have to grow out of it and treat my body well ? So Ignoring the upset stomachs, and lingering ill will in our consciousness we all mostly continue to relentlessly cause, and immaturely defend as necessary all conflict and personal habits .

So we do not know any of us know ,the true way to joy in our lives ? Will we ever without understanding the truth of almost general , and mass self destruction inherent in belief and socially defensive immorality as thought? Can we see the ignorance inherent in all of mankind saying psychologically we know the living truth and we have the right goals, and plans for mankind and there is truth in all our books, and all paths lead to truth.

can we see how stupid it is to believe all we need to do is personally choose our own favorite sayings from the smorgasbord of all philosophical, and traditional religious thought, and poison our own minds with certainty ,by believing and removing all doubt ?

Peace to you Sree and Kirsten we are all representatives of mankind, and one of a kind generally, in a terrible state of disorder, personal vanity , and hypocrisy only thinking we are not mostly all confused, and very very blind hypocrites. We are mostly all stubborn as all holy hell when it comes to our own false way of living, and thinking we are loving others, and escaping, the real factual knowing of the indecency, the violence, the deeper fear of being wrong , and the inner fragmentation, in ourselves .

Enjoy your lives I am not through discussing. I am with all who deny their own habits, and defend Guru's, Freud, Marx, Neitzche ,Christ ,Buddha,Zen ,Beliefs ,The Tao, or Lao and censoring and dominating, and controlling freaks like me, and you, and others , with more psychological patterns external revolutions,formulas , rituals, traditions, drugs, and false invented beliefs about beauty.

Let us look at these unfortunate people who believe creativeness is in thinking, as well as intelligence can be taught, controlled, and used for societies plans and corrupt goals .Useless thinking and formulas, and propaganda to enslave , only invents, more people enslaved mentally to limited useless thoughts, and the minds of others. Traditionally People act with no love in their hearts inventing more useless beliefs and thoughts and living in their own false acceptable beliefs and programming, or believe in the reprogramming of our own minds . :-)

[kirsten]

a men :)

[kirsten]

thankyou dano for sharing your thoughts and feelings, it has to be read carefully,
we as conditioned minds are full of reactions towards the inconvenient truths..

[Sree]

Yes, thank you Dano for speaking out - a fitting Thanksgiving speech that should have come from the White House. We wish.